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A 95-year-old Italian man who has been in the UK for 68 years has been asked to prove he is resident in the country by the Home Office in order to remain after Brexit | Antonio Finelli came to the country in 1952 when he answered an appeal for immigrant labour

A 95-year-old Italian man who has been in the UK for 68 years has been asked to prove he is resident in the country by the Home Office in order to remain after Brexit | Antonio Finelli came to the country in 1952 when he answered an appeal for immigrant labour

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  1. Off topic but he looks amazing for 95. Damn guys and gals you doubled my karma in a day, highest rated comment ever

  2. The Home Office needs to learn to prioritize… Right now it looks more like its going after low hanging fruits in order to boost its numbers…

  3. This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/feb/17/italian-man-95-resident-in-uk-for-68-years-told-to-prove-it) reduced by 82%. (I’m a bot)
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    > A 95-year-old Italian man who has been in the UK for 68 years has been asked to prove he is resident in the country by the Home Office in order to remain after Brexit, despite receiving the state pension for the past 32 years.

    > He was welcomed with one week's advance wages and a sandwich when he arrived at Folkestone harbour, but almost 70 years later says he has been forced to supply 80 pages of bank statements to prove his right to stay in the UK. He was asked for proof that he had been in the country for five consecutive years when he applied for the EU settlement scheme, but the Home Office app said it could not find any record of him.

    > "Imagine an elderly person who doesn't have his name on any bill and has no proof of residence and they have been here all these years and they get to their 80s and 90s and are asked to prove they have been here for five years.”

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  4. A few years ago, a similar sort of thing happened to my aunt here in the US.

    Moved here (legally) as a toddler from a European country with her mom.

    Was eventually adopted by an American man my grandmother married here in the US. My aunt worked a long career here in the US, paid her taxes.

    Went to claim her social security upon retirement, and they began the deportation process.

    Thankfully my family has/had both the funds and the attorneys to fix things and my aunt was able to stay, but it was a tumultuous time.

    Edited second sentence for clarity.

  5. How the fuck would this be one of their first actions? Seems like they have some serious priority problems.

  6. > Last week it emerged that a 101-year-old, Giovanni Palmiero, who coincidentally knew Finelli as a child in Italy, had been told to get his parents to apply on his behalf because the Home Office system thought he was a one-year-old.

    “Lucia! Get the shovel!”

  7. Common sense would tell the Home Office that a one-time amnesty for people in these instances would be smart.

    But, since none of this Brexit stuff is about common sense and everything about the racism that comes with misguided nationalism, expect more.

  8. 80 pages of bank statement. That’s nothing.

    A friend of mine has to provide evidence of 30+ years of residence in Canada to get his pension. He’s FLYING to Ireland to get part, evidence of having left there since it can’t be got remotely.

    I just had to pay over $2000 to print off several years worth of bank statements as part of an audit. Statements I deliberately asked not to receive in paper form, now printed single sided anyway.

    And 99% of my mail, two dozen envelopes each month, is either from the government, or a hedge against them asking for it later.

    The problem here isn’t brexit. It’s bureaucracy.

  9. Nationalism gone wild. Expect more of this around the world in the coming decades.The US and UK are just the warm up.

  10. Same thing is gonna happen in India. Except everyone will have to prove their citizenship when CAA is implemented and only muslims illegal immigrants (or even Muslim citizens who can’t prove their citizenship) will be thrown out of the country.

  11. Better headline – British Government misplaces its records of man, he spends 5 minutes printing his bank statements to show them

  12. Some relevant info for those who didnt read the article and got outraged by the clickbait title:

    * Department for Works and Pension (DWP) couldnt find records on this guy because he entered the UK so long ago and those records have not been digitized, so DWP can’t find his records yet.

    * “Mr Finelli will be fine because he has come to the centre”, The article quoting Dimitri Scarlato, a volunteer at Inca CGIL, an advice centre for Italian citizens

    * The Home Office confirmed to Scarlato that they had successfully processed Finelli’s application on Monday

  13. Just wow. We’re going to hell in a bucket but we ain’t enjoying the ride.

  14. Nope. He *was* asked, was referred to the correct people to help and then it became apparent that he’s been here 68 years and so if course has every right to stay. End of story.

    Quit the needlessly inflammatory bullshit.

    Edit: to be clear, this guy deserves no hassles whatsoever and I hope they helped him resolve it as quickly as possible. The difficulty is drawing a line which says “you’re x years old, let’s leave you alone” and enforcing it without creating more issues.

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