Home / news / “Don’t point your gun at me” – Video captures Wet’suwe’ten supporter pleading with RCMP | The RCMP stated that the rifle was never pointed at anyone at the checkpoint that day. It said the tactical member of the force, seen in the video, was “using the rifle scope as a magnified observation device”

“Don’t point your gun at me” – Video captures Wet’suwe’ten supporter pleading with RCMP | The RCMP stated that the rifle was never pointed at anyone at the checkpoint that day. It said the tactical member of the force, seen in the video, was “using the rifle scope as a magnified observation device”

“Don’t point your gun at me” – Video captures Wet’suwe’ten supporter pleading with RCMP | The RCMP stated that the rifle was never pointed at anyone at the checkpoint that day. It said the tactical member of the force, seen in the video, was “using the rifle scope as a magnified observation device”

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  1. This was also a HUGE problem during the Troubles in Norrhern Ireland – at security checkpoints ordinary people were painfully aware that snipers were currently aiming at them and it didn’t matter how harmless the British soldiers said it was, it led to a RAPID erosion of trust.

  2. Yeah I don’t think the average person differentiates between having a gun pointed at them and being observed through a scope (that is attached to a gun). That argument doesn’t hold water at all. Seems more like an intimidation tactic

  3. There is a picture of the officer pointing his rifle at the camera at the top of the article

  4. >The RCMP stated that the rifle was never pointed at anyone at the checkpoint that day.

    The next line:

    >It said the tactical member of the force, seen in the video, was “using the rifle scope as a magnified observation device in a manner consistent with police training.”

    Anyone with even a modicum of exposure to firearms knows the scope is designed to point in exactly the same direction as the barrel. These 2 statements are at odds, both *cannot* be true.

    When government officials blatantly lie to their constituency, it erodes trust and confidence.

  5. Isn’t there a rule that you don’t point your gun at anything you don’t intend to shoot?

  6. “Safety is… *click*… on”

  7. That’s toddler logic. I pointed the scope, not the barrel.

  8. It’s too bad we don’t have some kind of item that can magnify objects in the distance that isn’t attached to a gun. Maybe one day.

  9. >It said the tactical member of the force, seen in the video, was “using the rifle scope as a magnified observation device in a manner consistent with police training.”

    Aaah yes, the old “I’m using my gun as binoculars” excuse.

  10. Riiiiight, I find it hard to believe they weren’t given any binoculars especially when posted in a position such as that one

  11. “RCMP admits that it possesses no equipment for magnified observation other than guns”

  12. If i pointed my scope at some officers to look at them, they would be fine with that, right? It is just a scope, nothin wrong with that, nothing to get all twitchy about, right? I mean, the fact that it is attached to a rifle at the time is immaterial. Right?

  13. RCMP officers should know better than this. They make binoculars and spotting scopes for a reason.

    the scope on your firearm should NEVER be used as a magnified observation device, unless the object you’re observing is one you intend to shoot. It’s in the fucking CORE program we take up here before we’re issued a Hunter ID, alongside the PAL registration exam.

  14. And in every hunting or shooting safety course they tell us NEVER to use a scope in place of binoculars…cops are by far the WORST firearms owners in Canada in terms of safety and complacency with storage laws.

  15. RCMP observing where the bullets can go and who gets them.

  16. Used to do this all of the time in Afghanistan and would still feel guilty for doing it, and would only do it for as little time as I absolutely had to because I knew people were aware I was doing it and it is intimidating as fuck.

    The fact that police do this as an observation technique in the US/Canada blows my fucking mind, especially considering the shit level of training and judgement a lot of LEOs seem to have.

    Edit; phone grammar

  17. Point of a scope on a rifle is to magnify objects for better accuracy by default if it’s attached to a rifle for functionality the barrel is pointed at whatever you’re looking at. Never aim a firearm at something you’re not prepared to kill. If you can’t see use binoculars.

  18. Are police allowed to use rifles in this way?

  19. BS, looking through the scope of a rifle is not an appropriate way to surveil a protest. He was looking down the barrel of a lethal weapon. That is called pointing your weapon.

  20. Someone get these clowns some binoculars

  21. I went to watch the video and got 2 Skittles commercials… Seems a bit misplaced…

  22. Sure. Somehow the people in power always explain these things so well. Like that video of the 16-year old boy with mental issues, standing quietly next to a car. Two fat security guards slam him to the ground without provocation and lay on top of him for 5 minutes for no real reason. “Perfectly appropriate”, according to the hospital. Four cops show up, and the kid is allowed to sit, and spits out the blood pooling in his mouth. One cop immediately punches the handcuffed kid in the fact twice and has to be wrestled down by the other cops. “Perfectly appropriate”. The kid spends 8 days in jail and is charged with felonies for hitting the cops hand twice with his face. “Perfectly appropriate”, and the boss of the cops say “He didn’t hit him, he just pushed him aside” in spite of crystal clear video evidence that there was punching and out of control violence.

    So sure, we’ll take your word for it, “he was just using his rifle scope as a magnified observation device”. It was in no way an attempt to intimidate and terrorize. Suuure.

  23. Binoculars must have gone way up in price since the last time I bought a pair

  24. The whole point of that firearm is that the barrel and the scope are pointed in the same direction.

  25. Today I learnt that Canadian law enforcement do not have binoculars, but use the scope of a rifle instead.

  26. >The RCMP stated that the rifle was never pointed at anyone at the checkpoint that day.

    >It said the tactical member of the force, seen in the video, was “using the rifle scope as a magnified observation device in a manner consistent with police training.”

    Observing what, then? Probably not dolphins. Meaning you *were* pointing it at people. What a ridiculously blatant lie; sad to see Canadian cops are liars (and bad liars, too) just as much as American ones, apparently.

  27. How about not using a loaded gun to look at someone?

    Instead, use a telescope or binoculars?

    If you have a sniper rifle, how do you not have binoculars?

    We have the budget for sniper rifles but not binoculars?

    This is pure intimidation and there’s no excuse for it.

  28. I do this as well, but normally I have my scope attached to a quick release mount. That way I can observe and not look like I’m trying to go all Agent 47 on them.

  29. Don’t point a firearm at anything you aren’t prepared to destroy or kill. Regardless is it loaded or not.

  30. The scope attached to a gun whose function is to more accurately kill someone.

  31. Okay, yeah he was using the scope to look at someone. Sure. But underneath the scope is a FUCKING GUN POINTING THE SAME DIRECTION.

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    Oh, I almost forget. Scopes are removable. So if you want to use the rifle scope as a “magnified observation device” you can remove it from the fucking gun. There’s also a thing called binoculars, which are much better tactical magnification devices. You can find them on amazon for like 50 to 60 bucks.

  32. Sounds like typical RCMP practices against indigenous peoples. After all they were partially created to control the ‘savage indians’. Looks like they are honouring their colonial traditions very well.

  33. At the point where the gun is being pointed a number of profound mistakes have been made. Like arming a cop in the first place, and deploying him to help a multi-billion dollar company destroy the planet.

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