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Scottish independence: UK government rejects Sturgeon’s indyref2 demand

Scottish independence: UK government rejects Sturgeon’s indyref2 demand

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  1. **Boris: “The people of Scotland voted decisively on that [“once in a generation”] promise to keep our United Kingdom together”.**
    **Fact:** 55% voted “No”. Clear distinction from Yes but hardly a “decisive” one. Moreover the threat of a Brexit was not formally announced at the time, thus implying that at least they would stay in the EU regardless of the outcome.

    **Boris: “[you and] your predecessor…”**
    **Fact:** *His* predecessor pleaded Scotland to remain with the UK (thus the EU), only to 8 months later announce that a Brexit referendum would take place before 2017.

    **Boris: “…the democratic decision of the Scottish people”**
    **Fact:** 62% voted Remain in the subsequent Brexit referendum in 2016.
    48 out of 59 mandates in Westminster (55 seats) won by Scottish Nationalist Party (SNP) in the snap election of last year. Thus, Scotland is now being forced out if the EU against its “democratic decision”. A decision made only a month ago.

    **Boris: “For that reason I cannot agree /…/ further independence referendums”**
    **Fact:** The UK has voted several times about EU membership. In 1975 67.2% said “Yes” to remain with the EU. So absolutely no do overs, right Boris, or else it would disrespect the “democratic decision” of the British people?

    The playing field has *decisively* changed, dear chum. The generation that voted was fooled by your predecessor and currently has decisively demanded a stronger mandate for the SNP to arrange a second referendum on the independence of their country.

  2. Scotland just want to take back their sovereignty.

  3. Sovereignty is not given; it is taken.

  4. Well this could get interesting…fuck Boris, GET ON WITH IT!

  5. This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-51106796) reduced by 84%. (I’m a bot)
    *****
    > The UK government has formally rejected a call from Scotland's first minister for a second independence referendum.

    > Ms Sturgeon has said she wants to hold a referendum later this year, and made a formal request last month for the UK government to transfer powers to the devolved Scottish Parliament in Edinburgh that would ensure any referendum is legal.

    > The prospect of an independence referendum on Nicola Sturgeon's preferred timetable – the second half of 2020 – now looks very remote.

    *****
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  6. I could be wrong but I don’t think 6 years is enough for a “generation”.

  7. NOBODY: …
    BBC: Breaking news!!!!!!!!

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