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Senior Huawei Official Acknowledges Ability to Clandestinely Access Mobile Networks

Senior Huawei Official Acknowledges Ability to Clandestinely Access Mobile Networks

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  1. Huawei official “acknowledges” way less than the headline suggest. What they say is more in line with an engineer for the Titanic refusing to label the boat “unsinkable” (because they can imagine a possible scenario where it sinks) but headline veers statement towards “Engineer claims Titanic has built-in sinking mechanism!”

  2. Every telecom OEM and service provider has this ability. The U.S. government just vacuums a copy of every bit transferred over networks in their jurisdiction into NSA data centers via beamsplitters on fiber trunks, no backdoors required: [Room 641a](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A)

  3. I’d like to read the original source of the quote, and if it is Chinese, I’d like to know if anything was lost in translation. The article seems extremely speculative, despite my tendency to lean towards it.

  4. Stupid conclusion using a ridiculous leap of logic. Nothing in the statement “acknowledges” anything other than what we all knew – it is technically feasible. And we knew this already, because the fucking NSA has been intercepting Cisco network equipment and installing sniffers for years.

  5. No matter how you cut it, all major companies in China answer to the Chinese government, period. If Huawei has access , the Chinese government has it also and has probably always been the plan.

  6. Linking an *opinion piece* from a not-so-popular site [lawfareblog.com](https://lawfareblog.com), ranked [somewhere like 84k](https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/lawfareblog.com)

    You know, a small forum sharing anime and hentai/doujin raws I often visit ranks at 21k. What the hell are you doing [u/mng8ng](https://www.reddit.com/user/mng8ng/) ? Is this okay mods?

  7. > In particular, the Journal quoted a senior Huawei official as saying that network access without operator permission “is extremely implausible and would be discovered immediately.” This statement is extremely significant in understanding what Huawei equipment can and cannot do.

    >Assuming that these words accurately represent the Huawei position, Huawei has not said that network access without operator permission is technically impossible—only that it is implausible and would be discovered immediately. These are very different claims.

    So…the evidence is just mincing word play? Sheesh.

  8. So what if Huawei notices that the PLA accessed the networks. They are legally obliged to cooperate with chinese intelligence agencies.

    In other words, ban Huawei or give China deep insight.

  9. Click-bait article re-using the previous WSJ story and twisting words.

  10. Ah, another propaganda hit piece. Sure, blast the engineer for doing his job.

    To say something is 100% safe is stupid. Even the other brands wouldn’t say that.

    Anything that can be connected to via external means has the potential to be compromised.
    Thinking otherwise is the height of hubris, and how you open yourself up to lawsuits when it fails.

  11. This is going to be one of the long-term effects of Trump. US allies don’t trust the US anymore because of him and are willing to do more business with China, leaving them vulnerable to shit like this.

  12. Ehhhh the “evidence” here is really weak

    >In particular, the Journal quoted a senior Huawei official as saying that network access without operator permission “is extremely implausible and would be discovered immediately.” This statement is extremely significant in understanding what Huawei equipment can and cannot do.

    >Assuming that these words accurately represent the Huawei position, Huawei has not said that network access without operator permission is technically impossible—only that it is implausible and would be discovered immediately. These are very different claims.

    >The first claim is that network access without operator permission categorically cannot happen. The second claim is that network access without operator permission can happen (though it is implausible) but that any such access would be discovered. Indeed, if an event does not and cannot happen, what would be there to discover?

    That said, my country (canada) should ban huawei

  13. I have a friend who is doing exactly this kind of job, designing 5G networks around the planet for Huawei and his answer was “it would be found immediately”. I trust him 100%, that at least for everyone involved installing it have no knowledge of even how such a thing would be possible. That doesn’t absolutely rule anything out of course. His other answer was that the team would have to be infiltrated and it would be extremely unlikely that they would still be able to do it. But of course, no one knows if stuff is done AFTER the real people have done their part but any kind of secret access that would be installed at the same to allow just turning it on remotely is out of question. Way too many checks in the way.

  14. Anyone who thinks any major government can’t do this is lying to them self. Like the NSA was inside all Cisco products for years.

  15. Somebody is going to have to do a POC to give this any traction. Bottom line is **all** new systems will have flaws/vulnerabilities, it’s just a matter of them being discovered.

  16. I mean, as with everything in tech, you have to be able to access it in order to even operate it. There’s always a way to do something.

  17. Why this sucks is because everyone knows the USA has been spying on allies and enemies alike. Germany embassies, UK ministers etc, they’ve eroded public trust in surveillance so much that we don’t care who has our data anymore. Facebook, google, amazon, these sites are all gov proxies as much as huwai, tic-Tok or we-chat. So what if China has access to social meta data. At least they haven’t used Facebook to manipulate populations into voting in their favour

  18. The evidence is based on what a senior Huawei official did not say. By the same logic, Santa Claus must exist because a senior Huawei official did not deny it.

  19. Yet more accusations without any concrete proof. U would think after so many years, the US would actually have something concrete to show the world especially when close allies are ignoring their bullshit

  20. Random guy with a blog freely interprets kinda vague sentence – “Guys, this is a definite proof that they are doing the thing!!”

  21. And this is one of the primary reasons no one should use their 5G network.

  22. BREAKING NEWS: The US Government finally show its evidence today the secretary of toilets Miki Pompelmo announces that they finally found the evidence of Huawei spying using a network of clairvoyants and cristall meth balls that exchenge informations with the chinese government using audio waves produced by intestinal backdoors.

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  23. Bullshit story, full of ifs and maybes and ‘it’s possible that’ – nothing over what is already required in law by manufacturers already. The fact remains that the only government PROVED to already done this is the US through the NSA ans Cisco.

  24. Chinese companies need to stop being treated with such trust. Ffs, the British government was considering selling the Land Registry to the Chinese a couple of years ago.

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