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Spain to implement universal basic income in the country in response to Covid-19 crisis. “But the government’s broader ambition is that basic income becomes an instrument ‘that stays forever, that becomes a structural instrument, a permanent instrument,’ she said.”

Spain to implement universal basic income in the country in response to Covid-19 crisis. “But the government’s broader ambition is that basic income becomes an instrument ‘that stays forever, that becomes a structural instrument, a permanent instrument,’ she said.”

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  1. It’s strange. I am Spaniard and I didn’t know about this.

    The title looks like it’s gonna be implemented, but actually it is a comment by a politician: “I would like to implement a basic income for the pandemic”.

  2. As far as I can tell this:

    – is a proposal by one political party, and

    – proposes a guaranteed minimum income, not a universal basic income. A guaranteed minimum income would be something like “if you make less than 1000/month, we will give you money to bring you up to 1000”. A universal basic income would be something like “everyone gets 1000/month from the govt regardless of how much they earn or have”.

    https://www.expansion.com/economia/2020/02/13/5e455275468aeb7e6b8b4624.html

  3. That article doesn’t say much at all about it, but I think the general idea is that it’s much cheaper to upkeep and monitor than a system where you have to send application for all kinds of allowances. Like in Finland if you are unemployed or have very little income, there are like atleast three different kinds of allowances you can apply for, and at every step tax money is used to pay for multiple peoples to look at the application, and all of them need to be looked over carefully so that allowance is calculated correctly and that people dont take advantage of the allowances.

    Then after you spent all that effort to send in all the applications and documents and you have your allowances coming in. You get a job offer. The job pays about the same as your allowances, so you get like $100/mo more from working than not working at all. Some people might not be very motivated to take the job. Maybe you take the job but it was part time for 2 months. Now you send in new applications and tax money is again spent for someone to look at them again.

    With basic income none of this should be a problem. The only problem are people who dont want to work at all, but they are a problem anyway, they waste a lot of tax money with all their allowance applications and probably try to scam with them anyway.

  4. If this is true and stays permanently it will be a huge step forward for society. Actual good news finally.

  5. Spaniard here. Is not true. Is it true that in Spain there are several economic aids for several groups in difficult situations, but no way is going to be a Covid-19 universal basic income for everybody in the country. The government plans to develop different economic aids, but universal basic income is just an uthopia, right now it is not even being discussed.

    Os course, there is a part in the government (PSOE + UP) that wants a universal basic income (in fact, it was in their election program), but it’s like “we want a republic” (in Spain we have a king), just a desire, not a serious proposal.

  6. From climate repair to UBI implementation, Covid-19 may very well kick-off the Common Sense Age.

  7. Another day of r/worldnews pushing fake news and propaganda to All.

    The mods clearly DGAF; maybe it’s time for the Admins to step in.

  8. How is Spain going to pay for this? Their debt to gdp is one of the highest is the EU.

  9. So how would it work? It would just be extra money on top of what you earn?

  10. Any spanish source to corroborate that? Couldn’t find anything on El Pais about it.

  11. Love to see Countries stepping up and expanding their citizens rights instead of regressing them, been seeing far too much of that lately.

  12. The sub is fucking hilarious in that it just upvotes nice sounding headlines, without reading the article.

  13. When Yang was running, I thought basic income was 15-20 years ahead of its time. I’d love to see a benefit come from the quarantine, in society becoming more readily accepting of the idea.

  14. With all the stuff I’m reading about how lockdowns and stuff will be used to turn the world into a dictator’s wet dream, it’s nice to read that something positive might come out of this for some people

  15. Wouldn’t basic income just cause rent and inflation to rise? Genuine question. Please do explain

  16. My country it’s broke, that’s not gonna happen. At most will be some temporary relief paid by the EU.

  17. Spaniard here, I doubt this’ll ever happen to be honest. They’re even going late on paying unemployment to people who got temporarily laid off (a new measure that lets employers make people leave their job but then forced to give their employees a job for at least 6 momths). Don’t get me started on the fact that each year we’re having a higher debt in Social Security because of retirement (caused by our hugely aged population).

  18. While I’m in favor of UBI, I wonder if they are not jumping the gun there.

    Especially Spain, a country that is already in a massive economic crisis.

  19. I’m from Spain and I thought that I was aware of the news, but this is the first time I hear about UBI being put on the table. If that’s the case, news here in Spain don’t put much atention into it.

  20. How could they sustain that without an own currency and such a weak economy?

  21. Sorry to say, but that’s fake news. Nobody is talking about this in Spain, much less the desaster of a government we have right now (and before anyone gives me shit about this, no, I do not believe the right wing would have done a better job… being a country of cheats and scammers is the problem, not any party in particular).

  22. I live in Spain. No economist is happy with this. We are a country with crippling debt, with high unemployment and huge spending already. This « Venezuelan » measure will kill our country even more, it is stupid and unrealistic. The extreme left party suggested this (in coalition with the left party in the government) every other party, including some people inside the left party, are criticizing this.

    If UBI is such an amazing measure, how come basically no country in the world has implemented it? Even the European welfare states, with amazing unemployment benefits, universal education and healthcare have not implemented it.

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